Why are so many cis males getting breast reduction surgery tho?
Edit I didn’t know that many dudes had boobs. Makes sense, thanks :3
All dudes have boobs. They have nipples and breast tissue. They can lactate (small amounts) and get breast cancer.
This is because, in mammals, the default sex leans towards more female. An XY-chromosome ‘male’ foetus that doesn’t respond to androgens in the womb will not develop male external genitalia, and will probably be assumed to be female on birth.
Sex is not binary, because biology isn’t simple. Gender, which is more complex than that, is not, either.
I believe that male lactation, while possible, is rare.
Rare cam be a deceptive term, with the current population of the human race ‘one in a million’ is still 8,000 people.
But also, male lactation, other than infants at birth who have a high exposure to their mother’s hormones, is always a significant medial concern, so it isn’t something that just sometimes happens.
Males are born with breast tissue, hence the fact they can get breast cancer.
One or more hormones (I assume prolactin is involved) are required to activate lactation.
Prolactin and oxytocin, mostly.
yeah you’re cis alright
Obviously I meant biologically male, come on. I acknowledge that men can lactate.
no, like, their comment was chock-full of good stuff & that’s what you decide to focus on? apologies for the “no u,” but like, come on.
What was I supposed to have focused on? Because the person I replied to didn’t think what I said was so beyond the pale.
explaining the joke ruins the joke
Because the alternative is a brossiere.
Brossieres are known to cause medical issues, mostly back, spine, wear and damage.
I’ve got to get to a damn gym right now
Especially when you can get them enlarged! C’mon fellas. Have fun with it.
Seriously though, I get that this could be terribly embarrassing if you have boobs as a man. I feel bad for kids in gym locker rooms getting teased.
Now, imagine how bad it would be if you were a man with breasts and a vagina and woman’s name and you were forced to stay that way. Truly sounds like a nightmare.
Out of the 151 breast reductions that were performed in 2019 on American minors, 146 (97 percent) were performed on cisgender males.
The thing is, growing up in an evangelical church they don’t want these people getting breast reduction surgery either. they firmly believe that any change to the body is going against God’s will regardless of the physical or mental harm it may cause.
pretty sure they’re okay with women getting boob implants, though.
Idk, the #1 thing people said behind Dolly Parton’s back and held against her was that she had fake tits.
absolutely true but Dolly Parton did not have to face transphobic harassment and violence
very very very important distinction
Except male genital mutilation, aka circumcision. (Please don’t take this as me saying FGM and MGM are equally bad. FGM is much, much worse.)
There are five grades of FGM; MGM is equivalent to hoodectomy, which is grade III.
The worst FGM is much, much worse that MGM, but the least-worst FGM is much less-worse than MGM.
where do you cite this five grade model?
the world health organization is not quite in line with you here (CW, hopefully obvious explicit discussion of mutilation) thanks !
Hm, it’s been a while since I’ve been active in this space, I’m quoting from memory. I’ll look up some stuff.
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This appears to be an issue with accurate reporting. Considerations like this would make the data make a lot more sense.
The problem is the interpretation by those running the study.
I’m not sure I am perfectly following you—what should the authors have said?
I am definitely mistakenly misreading you here, sorry for the inconvenience!
(significantly edited to reflect my intent; also if any others could help me out, i don’t mean to bug this person and annoy them)
just because I had something to add doesn’t mean I missed you point.
well i am missing your point i guess, sorry. could you rephrase what you are saying ? im quite lost
edit: like what is “the problem” involved here? what are the journalists saying that is misleading?
well i am missing your point i guess
Yes, despite it being very simple and my having explained it clearly…
sorry
No, being “confusing and distracting” by muddying the waters was you whole point. You’re clearly arguing in bad faith. It’s just that I called you out.
Facing the consequences of your actions is not a state of victimhood.
i literally don’t know what you are talking about, lol. just asking for clarification because my initial reading was clearly wrong :)
this should hilight to us the outsized effect transphobia has on discourse.
if we were to believe the line that “we’re just concerned about people getting mutilated” we must naturally expect to see that 97% margin of outrage at breast implants, hair implants, weight management surgery etc. for cis folk.
and we don’t. here and there you might hear an evangelical getting upsetti spaghetti avout Ozempic et al but transphobic talking points dominate, in vast disproportion to actual individual cases.