• Harry@lemmy.world
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    First of all- I agree concerns about both their ages are very much valid here but hasn’t Biden had a stutter from a very young age and struggled with it most of his life? Surely we should cut the guy some slack here?

    That said, of course there won’t be slack. Political debates (especially one of high stakes as this one) are cut throat and no one has room for error.

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      Brother don’t lie to yourself, that was way more than a just a stutter. Nobody who watched that debate is under the impression that the problem was Joe Biden stuttered sometimes. I understand you’re disappointed and trying to cope somehow but it’s not healthy to just create a fantasy. It was a train wreck. It was real real bad. Just accept it and move on.

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        @njm1314@lemmy.world My dude, go easy. I’m from the UK, I have no reason to create a fantasy, just making an observation. Please don’t make these kinda discussions a “shut up and listen here” kind of thing.

        Edit: tagged user

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          I honestly didn’t think he went that hard on you… It definitely didn’t come across as a “shut up and listen here” comment.

          That said, if you saw any of the clips, I think it was clear and obvious that his stutter was not the issue.

          In 2020, there was a lot of talk about his stutter, and that made seemed right. Here lately Biden is giving me “Weekend at Bernie” vibes.

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      In his first presidential primary in 1988, Biden was the front runner despite his youth because he was wildly regarded as one of the best public speakers in the country and he was (at the time) charismatic.

      Then he started yelling at reporters about how high his IQ was after they found out he plagiarized speeches plagiarized work in law school, and lied about his grades and class standing.

      Because he got over his childhood stutter. In childhood.

      What’s happening now isn’t a stutter. It’s 100% normal for an 82 year old.

      That doesn’t mean an 82 year old is fit to be president, just that Biden acts how an 82 year old is expected to act. Because he’s 82 years old.

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      3 months ago

      Because the system is set up to prevent any real change for the benefit of the common people. So your choice is between the friendly, somewhat reasonable oligarchy stooge and the utterly deranged oligarchy stooge.

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        A somewhat less pessimistic take: the system is set up to be self-stable.

        And it was also designed so that States would have most of the power, not the Federal government.

        At various points in history the common people did get benefits. New Deal. Universal suffrage. Civil rights. Abolition.

        But it always requires a critical mass of the population to support change.

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          And it was also designed so that States would have most of the power, not the Federal government.

          Yeah, but then we changed it because of the civil war…

          The system was designed for the president to be a mostly performative figurehead. Then we gave the president real power, but left determination like the president didn’t matter.

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    Damn, I guess I’m going to ignore years of evidence that Biden’s admin can function just fine and go with my feelings on this one. I mean would you vote constructively if it meant getting over yourself? Of course not. We’re Americans. We want a leader with a good jaw, not with good character or good ideas.

    Nah but seriously though. Biden and Trump make me feel bad so I’m going to vote in a way that harms the country. That’ll show us.

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      I mean, you’d think the total inability to hide Biden and Trumps’ cognitive dysfunction, caught on camera many, many times over the last few years, and now live and in color, would be enough to get people to stop pretending that there’s a good option here. Hell, Biden’s handlers have been caught on camera making sure he doesn’t wander off, like they had for Feinstein before she died.

      But then again, Americans have watched the gradual, but now inevitable, slide into fascism over the last 40 years and managed to convince themselves that all is well, provided the guy enabling it is wearing their preferred jersey, so I guess we’ll just chill and let Biden and Trumps’ unelected handlers rule the country.

      It’s too bad you all didn’t vote for Williamson in the primary. It’s been clear neither of these two assholes are fit for a long time, just like it was clear Feinstein wasn’t fit when she was falling asleep in hearings.

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        The people guiding Biden at least have an interest in keeping the united states functional. The people guiding Trump want to watch it burn.

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          The people guiding Biden at least have an interest in keeping the united states functional

          … for their corporate sponsors, who’s interests slightly align with yours.

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      3 months ago

      ignore years of evidence that Biden’s admin can function

      They’re doing a real bang-up job, both at home and abroad.