Far-right parties rattled the traditional powers in the European Union and made major gains in parliamentary elections Sunday, dealing an especially humiliating defeat to French President Emmanuel Macron.

On a night where the 27-member bloc palpably shifted to the rightItalian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni more than doubled her seats in the EU parliament. And even if the Alternative for Germany extreme right party was hounded by scandal involving candidates, it still rallied enough seats to sweep past the slumping Social Democrats of Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

Sensing a threat from the far right, the Christian Democrats of EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen had already shifted further to the right on migration and climate ahead of the elections — and were rewarded by remaining by far the biggest group in the 720-seat European Parliament and de facto brokers of the ever expanding powers of the legislature.

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    Bosnian serbs weren’t full citizens

    So, not immigrants. Immigration was not a factor, at all.

    was their financial backer

    Someone who finances an organization that tries to influence a group of students is not a “strongman”. Merely a rich man, like David Koch.

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      He considered himself an other in a country that wasn’t his own, he’s an immigrant.

      No one said they were, I Said each cell had a strongmen. History shows the charismatic strongman is involved in most conflicts just not generally on the same level as conflict post 1870. More often than not theres a handful of them starting dumpster fires to push into crowds, the rare ones are people like Hitler or Mussolini who manage to actually gain power and not immediately catch the kadaffi treatment.

      Bad example, David Koch is an economic strongman. In this age money =power money =speech, you’re not likely to see a Hitler again, you’re more likely to find a small group of shitty people doing shitty things that make it shitty for everyone else.

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        He considered himself an other in a country that wasn’t his own, he’s an immigrant.

        No, he’s not an immigrant. By definition, immigrants and emigrants migrate, ie they move somewhere else. It’s right there in the word.

        If you live in the same place you were born, you aren’t an immigrant.

        History shows the charismatic strongman

        “Strongman” is defined as a “one who leads or controls by force of will and character or by military methods”. That does not include David Koch or anyone else who merely finances a political movement.

        shitty people doing shitty things that make it shitty for everyone else

        Well, if you’re arguing that wars tend to be caused by the actions of shitty people in general then I won’t dispute that fact.

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          There was migration ie colonials moving in and making his nation not a nation any longer. You’re being tedious.

          Arguably yes, historically no.

          That’s a definition sure, you are aware English changes through time, context and situation. He’s an economic strongman, what even are you arguing for or against at this point? Do you even know?

          That would be nearly as dumb, not quite but real close.

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            Yes, colonists were immigrants. Under colonialism, the immigrants are the ones in power.

            You previously argued that wars were preceded by fear of immigrants and the rise of political leaders like Hitler. Now it seems you mean the existence of immigrants and rich people like Koch.

            But that comparison is pointless. Immigrants and rich people preceded WW1, WW2, the American revolution, the invention of penicillin, every Nobel Peace Prize ceremony, and every Cat 4-5 hurricane.

            That’s because there are always immigrants and there are always rich people. So pointing out that they also exist right now is not particularly concerning.