• zbyte64@awful.systems
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    5 months ago

    The media isn’t taking the numbers at face value, unless you’re also making the claim of the UN and UNICEF because they use the same numbers. The fact is, given the wide destruction, the actual numbers are much worse. If you can’t admit that last point then I assume you’re not familiar with what percentage of homes have been destroyed or how many dead journalists and their families have been murdered.

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      I can’t see how the UN and UNICEF can get to an accurate number for the number of casualities, as most bodies are in a zone of war. And just because a building was blown up doesn’t mean there were civilians inside. Most civilians are in tents in refugee camps. I’m not trying to say there’s no casualities in a war, but that it’s impossible to count all bodies right now because of the warfighting, and there’s probably bodies under rubble as well. Only when the war is over it’ll be possible to get an exact number.

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        5 months ago

        Not sure if you realized, but you moved from “Hamas’s numbers can’t be trusted” to “we can’t trust any numbers because it’s war”.

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          5 months ago

          Both statements can coexist without any contradiction. If no numbers can be trusted (due to loggistical concerns I cited in my previous comment), how can Hammas be so sure of the numbers it gives to the press? Not only would Hammas’ numbers be innacurate if they were acting in good faith, but they’d be outright fake in case of bad faith on their part (most likely scenario).

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            5 months ago

            Again, the UN has looked at the numbers and found them to be reasonable. And we would have more numbers if the IDF didn’t kill a record number of journalists (and their families).