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    5 months ago

    Facts: workforce participation rate never recovered from 2007, the cost of medical insurance/tuition/housing have all outpaced wage growth of all but the wealthiest people, meanwhile the earning ratio between the lowest paid and high paid workers have exploded.

    You can call me any nasty name you want but we are in a recession. When I start seeing those numbers I listed change is when I will stop saying that.

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      5 months ago

      Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point. We are NOT in a recession. I don’t know the correct terminology to describe the facts you’ve laid out but “recession” is not it.

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        5 months ago

        Pretty sure I used the correct word. If economists need a safe space away from it I am sure their banker friends can pay someone else to build it for them, you know with my money.

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          You’re wrong and ignoring everything you’ve been told to rationalize your feelings and direct your resentment. You don’t get to re-define words because you’re upset.

          “Recession” is a specific word based on specific measurements. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/recession.asp

          The problem is that you’re angry at the wrong thing. As I said, there’s a lot to complain about and it would be nice if people knew what it was they were complaining about. Like, you’re yelling at Netflix because you don’t like that HBO is now called MAX.

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            No you are wrong. You and your economists friends took a word that had a well known meaning and redefined it to get the result that they wanted. Then have the audacity to demand that we all use the definition they created. They can all go and fuck themselves for all I care.

            Recession: noun, bad shit happening to poor people for a while.

            I get it in a way. They read 1984 and decided “hey this is double plus good way of getting what I want. Rather than deal with the real universe I can just redefine words and declare everyone who disagrees a heretic”. Wealthy = scarcity, peace = war, slavery = freedom, and recession = economic boom.

            It is so so much easier to just attack people compared to solving issues. I can’t wait until the day when your economists friends decide to redefine climate change as normal.

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              K. You’re just delusional. Again, thank you for very perfectly illustrating my point.
              You’re even doing the defensive thing I described when I’m on your side and agreeing with your frustration.

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                  Dude. You are pointing at the truth as established by linguists and experts in their field and saying it’s a lie. You are delusional.

                  Delusional: characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.

                  I’m not sure how else to express this again. Everything you are claiming is factual and troubling – aside from it being called or related to a recession. You have all the truth at your finger tips, but you are rejecting it. You are rejecting the truth because you are angry and lazy and find more comfort in your own limited beliefs than someone informing you that you are misinformed. The title of this post is “more than half of Americans think the US is in a recession, it’s not” and the article goes on to explain why IT IS NOT and you are rejecting it. You are presenting real world dinner table economics as somehow related to a recession when it is not and never has been.

                  Please, I sincerely want you to read into this rather than ignore it. Please read about what a recession is and how your real world economics is not directly related to it. I want you to understand you are barking up the wrong tree while right behind you the tree that’s relevant to your concerns is on fire. This is going to better inform you so you can support the right politicians and better understand the news (which you evidently are not reading anyway).

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                    5 months ago

                    Again with the name calling. We are in a recession. Need me to repeat it?

                    Tell YOUR economists friends that there is no war in ba sing se.