The amount of leaks iOS intentionally does, let alone the part where they tell you to use their own (not so) Private Relay feature, is enough to stick around on Android.
The one that irks me is how some apps that have already established a connection can ignore the VPN. I always wondered about that, like if I enabled my VPN, what happens to existing connections. One thing I couldn’t find is what apps can do this? If it’s third party apps, that’s pretty serious. But if it’s just Apple apps or default ones, that’s a far less of a concern seeing as Apple seems to bypass VPN anyway for its in-house wares.
You should treat Apple as a third party to your data. Apple is not your friend. No corporation is your friend. Apple is even worse than the average corporation.
LOL. They built the entire fucking OS. If they want to siphon my data, they can. Without anyone knowing. Also everything is linked to my Apple ID. So what’s the point? They already know everything and have tied it all together with my unique IDs, device serial numbers and the payment data associated. What’s the point the of running FaceTime over a VPN? They already know everything…
At some point you have to stay calm and think rationally.
Now if Twitter or some random app I downloaded from GitHub can bypass my VPN, then yeah, that’s a pretty big concern as they currently have nothing on me.
I’m going to ignore the “corpos aren’t your friend” because FUCKING DUUUHHHHHH
If you have sold your soul to Apple already, then that is not a problem. You may take this as offensive or factual, I do not care. Why? Because I use Android phones without a Google account. You may think, this person does not have a life, I do. But I also have a life. I use online groceries and use shopping sites through Firefox web browser. I have WhatsApp and Discord with lots of restrictions and a firewall with 400k+ domains blocked all the time.
How much data you consider okay to give away to corpos is up to you. However, understand that once you give away this or that data about you, there is no way to return back to an option or time where nobody had that data about you.
Yes, I am pretty anal about my privacy, security, anonymity and freedom. And I am shameless about it.
LOL. Just trying to take a reasoned take to the situation bro. Every OS siphons user data Einstein. Yes even Linux (distros like Ubuntu do). A VPN won’t save you. It’s cute you think adding a lock on your room’s door will keep people out of your house.
If you just have an iPhone and nothing else and treat it like a smart phone it is very easy to migrate over to android and vice versa. If you get invested in the apple ecosystem it might be hard to leave or use some other products that are gimped without an iPhone
Third party products will not work well with an iPhone as Apple makes sure that there products work best. Additionally, iphones have very bad SMS and MMS support.
Lmao. People really are just out there on the raggedy edge. The watch communicates with a shit ton of sensors and other tech only found on Apple devices. Also, last I checked, I can’t run an Android Watch on iPhone fully, there is always a slew of things that don’t work or kinda work. Maybe Apple didn’t want that experience for its users.
You need a Mac to build Apple apps because why in the actual fuck would you use a PC to do that!? What’s the point?
I’m not defending Apple as they clearly gate a lot of shit but the complaining about the dumbest shit ever doesn’t make them Nazis. Also, Google, Samsung, Microsoft, all of them are the same level of asshole. Big Tech is trash. This is not new news.
Same shit as with Apple on Android, basic functionality, nothing more.
So you blame Apple for Android having basic functionality with an aWatch but then blame Apple for a Samsung Watch having basic functionality on iOS? So it’s just Apple’s fault all the way around then?
I guess you also missed the part where I say all big tech is the same? And are all basically shit? Or you just didn’t read that far…
“The report detailed how the user managed to leak DNS queries when disabling and enabling VPN while having “Block connections without VPN” on.”
Not to diminish the severity of the issue but I can’t imagine this being the factor that pushes the average person to ios over android.
The amount of leaks iOS intentionally does, let alone the part where they tell you to use their own (not so) Private Relay feature, is enough to stick around on Android.
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Uhhhh, source? Those are pretty bold claims to just casually toss out
Here!
https://protonvpn.com/blog/apple-ios-vulnerability-disclosure/
https://mullvad.net/en/help/using-mullvad-app-on-ios#vulnerabilities
Those remain unpatched btw and have been around since iOS 14 or so.
Cheers 🥂
The other fellow provided some links, but this is a serious, in depth technical elaboration on the topic. https://gist.github.com/iosecure/357e724811fe04167332ef54e736670d
The one that irks me is how some apps that have already established a connection can ignore the VPN. I always wondered about that, like if I enabled my VPN, what happens to existing connections. One thing I couldn’t find is what apps can do this? If it’s third party apps, that’s pretty serious. But if it’s just Apple apps or default ones, that’s a far less of a concern seeing as Apple seems to bypass VPN anyway for its in-house wares.
You should treat Apple as a third party to your data. Apple is not your friend. No corporation is your friend. Apple is even worse than the average corporation.
LOL. They built the entire fucking OS. If they want to siphon my data, they can. Without anyone knowing. Also everything is linked to my Apple ID. So what’s the point? They already know everything and have tied it all together with my unique IDs, device serial numbers and the payment data associated. What’s the point the of running FaceTime over a VPN? They already know everything…
At some point you have to stay calm and think rationally.
Now if Twitter or some random app I downloaded from GitHub can bypass my VPN, then yeah, that’s a pretty big concern as they currently have nothing on me.
I’m going to ignore the “corpos aren’t your friend” because FUCKING DUUUHHHHHH
If you have sold your soul to Apple already, then that is not a problem. You may take this as offensive or factual, I do not care. Why? Because I use Android phones without a Google account. You may think, this person does not have a life, I do. But I also have a life. I use online groceries and use shopping sites through Firefox web browser. I have WhatsApp and Discord with lots of restrictions and a firewall with 400k+ domains blocked all the time.
How much data you consider okay to give away to corpos is up to you. However, understand that once you give away this or that data about you, there is no way to return back to an option or time where nobody had that data about you.
Yes, I am pretty anal about my privacy, security, anonymity and freedom. And I am shameless about it.
LOL. Just trying to take a reasoned take to the situation bro. Every OS siphons user data Einstein. Yes even Linux (distros like Ubuntu do). A VPN won’t save you. It’s cute you think adding a lock on your room’s door will keep people out of your house.
Good luck in your travels.
I’m not sure of anyone who switches from iOS. Once you are in the ecosystem they won’t let you leave.
Why is this stupidity repeated ad nauseum? I’ve successfully switched from iOS to Android and back to iOS again without any hindrance.
It’s not any different from switching from windows to Linux.
Then why can’t I use an Apple watch with anything but Apple products? Why do I need a Mac to create iOS apps?
If you just have an iPhone and nothing else and treat it like a smart phone it is very easy to migrate over to android and vice versa. If you get invested in the apple ecosystem it might be hard to leave or use some other products that are gimped without an iPhone
Third party products will not work well with an iPhone as Apple makes sure that there products work best. Additionally, iphones have very bad SMS and MMS support.
Source on bad sms and mms support? I use an iPhone and both seem to work fine…
Lmao. People really are just out there on the raggedy edge. The watch communicates with a shit ton of sensors and other tech only found on Apple devices. Also, last I checked, I can’t run an Android Watch on iPhone fully, there is always a slew of things that don’t work or kinda work. Maybe Apple didn’t want that experience for its users.
You need a Mac to build Apple apps because why in the actual fuck would you use a PC to do that!? What’s the point?
I’m not defending Apple as they clearly gate a lot of shit but the complaining about the dumbest shit ever doesn’t make them Nazis. Also, Google, Samsung, Microsoft, all of them are the same level of asshole. Big Tech is trash. This is not new news.
You could use an Android watch with iOS but Apple will not let you. I don’t get why you are defending Apple
What do you mean don’t let you? https://screenrant.com/samsung-galaxy-watch-4-use-with-iphone-compatible-explained/
Same shit as with Apple on Android, basic functionality, nothing more.
So you blame Apple for Android having basic functionality with an aWatch but then blame Apple for a Samsung Watch having basic functionality on iOS? So it’s just Apple’s fault all the way around then?
I guess you also missed the part where I say all big tech is the same? And are all basically shit? Or you just didn’t read that far…