County officials alert Montecito homeowners that they face prosecution, including daily fines of $850 if stones are not removed

Montecito, California, is known for being home to Oprah, a former royal family, and a stunning stretch of coastline. It’s also home to miles of trails, some of which are being blocked by residents hoping to stop people from accessing public hot springs.

Santa Barbara county has been watching encroachments on East Mountain Drive and Riven Rock Road in Montecito since at least 2022, when they sent letters to residents warning them to remove large stones.

Last month, county officials sent letters again to at least six homes alerting residents to remove the stones by 28 March or face civil or criminal prosecution, including daily fines of $850. The county insists that these roads are a public right of way.

The issue seems to be with parking at the trailhead, where a tiny lot allows for just eight vehicles. When that fills up, hikers have to park on roadsides. The hot springs contain six bright blue pools that are located 1.3 miles from the trailhead in the San Padres Forest, surrounded by a deep forest and rocky hills. It became popular during the pandemic when hiking surged in the area, and has also taken off on social media as a destination.

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    7 months ago

    It’s not clear if the stones have been cleared.

    🤡

    More like, “we just got paid to not do anything about it”. If they wanted those stones cleared they would have brought a fucking excavator, got shit done, and fined the people responsible over $10,000 for the cost of moving them.

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      7 months ago

      Roll the stone into their house and then fine them for creating a hazard that damaged a house.

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      7 months ago

      That’s actually exactly what is happening, the courts have ordered them to remove the rocks or be fined.

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        7 months ago

        Those are not the same. In one, the right-of-way is cleared and they are fined… but while that plays out, it’s usable.

        I’m the other. They’re paying a price to keep people out. If you’re wealthy enough, then it’s just a thing. Like paying the yard guy.

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          I don’t really understand what you’re saying, they’re ordered to remove the boulders and are being fined $850 a day AND risk further prosecution which are likely to be much more severe. Not OR. They don’t get to keep paying $850 forever, they have to remove the boulders.

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            I think the capitalization should be on the word “RISK in that phrase. There are lots of delaying tactics. Let’s presume they’re going to have to pay. So why not spend the money (and then charge interest until they pay) and fix it now, rather than waiting weeks/months++? It’s in their best interests to delay as long as possible.

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              7 months ago

              Yeah and I hope they do, I want to see them pay larger fines more than I want the stones moved.

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        It is April 10th, and they say “remove the stones by 28 March or face civil or criminal prosecution”. I didn’t read anything about real repercussions, did you?

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          7 months ago

          According to the article above us, they’re being forced to pay daily fines of $850 and may face prosecution. Given that the article is getting attention, the “may” part seems very much likely.

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            Bro what country do you live in? It’s pretty obvious that they won’t face a day behind bars no matter what they do. Rich people break the law all the fucking time and never see jail.

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              I hope they don’t, I want to see them pay fines with more zeroes. I want them to get charged so much that the potholes get fixed and school lunches become free. I want a new wing at the hospital funded by them but with somebody else’s name on the plaque. I hope they try to fight this for months so that they pay the $850 a day, their legal fees, and much larger fines on top of it.

              IDGAF about 10 people sitting in each blue water crevice.