They say that he who creates AGI will control the entire world. I wouldn’t want America to dominate earth with their misaligned AI.

  • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
    67·
    9 months ago

    And they committed dozens of genocides, whereas China committed none. And they rape children in ICE camps. And they have done foreign interventions in 100+ countries. And they banned abortion countrywide. And they have the world’s largest prisoner count.

    And yet you hate China more. That looks like CIA bot behaviour.

    Oh and I almost forgot, USA wants to fight till the last Ukrainian is dead, and they are funding and cheering Palestinian genocide right now. Last year they committed a genocide in Somalia. Before that, Yemen carpet bombing. That list is too long.

    Yeah, you are a CIA bot.

    • davel [he/him]@lemmy.mlEnglish
      51·
      9 months ago

      Reporter: [REDACTED]
      Reason: Genocide denial

      We do in fact deny genocides that are made up bullshit, yes. Copypasta time.

      The US’s “Uyghur genocide” (“cultural” or otherwise) disinformation campaign has already been debunked several times over.

      We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

      Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

      The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

      Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

      Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

      Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

      • AmerikaLosesWW3@lemmygrad.mlOP
        51·
        9 months ago

        China doesn’t plunder, invade, or bomb like America does. China prefers to build and cooperate with other countries. Win-Win relationships are China’s thing instead of zero-sum games like America.

        • maynarkh@feddit.nl
          23·
          9 months ago

          The relationship they had with the country I grew up in was not like that, it was more like pay off corrupt politicians, so China can economically exploit it. Same with Russia. What you’re saying is just the Chinese party line, the equivalent of the “US only ever brings democracy” BS. They are both BS, of course, they both serve their own interests.

          • davel [he/him]@lemmy.mlEnglish
            41·
            9 months ago

            The relationship they had with the country I grew up in was not like that, it was more like pay off corrupt politicians, so China can economically exploit it.

            [Citation needed]

            There is a difference between an imperialist state like the US and an anti-imperialist — and until recently imperialized — state like China.

            The US has over 750 overseas military bases around the world, and is building more to further encircle China. Meanwhile China has one anti-piracy base in Djibouti.

            • maynarkh@feddit.nl
              23·
              9 months ago

              I’m not talking about philosophically, I’m talking about China paying off my country’s politicians to build massive infrastructure projects benefiting only China, from money lent from China, by companies from China. Or the same deal happening with overpriced rail cars bought from Russia, that are not performing even comparably better than the French ones we could have bought for much, much cheaper.

              My country mostly faces no US pressure except when it’s blocking NATO or EU proceedings, to the chagrin of all the other member states. Even then, the government could do what it wanted, no matter how stupid. Worst thing they did was pay less of the free money that they were paying to help us grow in the first place.