according to reddit they had 918 million Monthly Active Users (MAU) in 2022, then they stopped reporting it for I assume stock reasons 🤷♀️. Anyways, I’m not trying to be super specific so I’ll go with 1 billion since it’s 4 years out of date anyways.
The widely shared number for Lemmy MAU is ~40,000. I’ve heard this shared for many years and I wasn’t sure if it was accurate anymore. The actual numbers are easy to find so I added all of the totals from piefed statistics page for Lemmy + Piefed + Mbin.
It turned out to be 40,272. guess the number was correct after all!
https://piefed.social/statistics?software=Lemmy
so that’s 1,000,000,000 vs 40,000
that’s 0.004%! I lowkey forgot how big reddit is.
EDIT: for all the people saying my data is inaccurate, I know. There’s many factors that offset the accurate statistics of what a ‘user’ is. I’ll list a few, including some nobody else has considered
- reddits estimate includes bot accounts
- lemmys estimate includes bot accounts
- reddit estimate includes alt accounts
- lemmys estimate includes alt accounts (arguably moreso than reddit due to ppl having accounts on multiple instances)
- reddits estimate includes signed out accounts, lemmys does not
- VPN / dynamic routers can largely bias reddits number
- one last small factor, reddits data is 4 years out of date
I’m literally a college dropout because I’m bad at math, I just looked up numbers and divided them.
instead of constantly winging about data inaccuracies how about yall do something about it. comment a more accurate estimation and I’ll edit my posts title and give credit. stupid smelly nerds
reddits estimate includes signed out accounts, lemmys does not
That’s going to make a massive difference.
Well, it’s not that simple. I accidentally made, like, 5 Lemmy accounts across different instances until I understood how federation works. Now I rotate through them for privacy’s sake lol.
peopleBots
yeah, but half of those reddit users will be banned soon.
Whenever people complain about the changes on Reddit, be sure to direct them here… Unless they’re twats, then let them wallow in the slop.
But every Lemmy users is worth far more than 25,000 Redditors.
As someone that is 100% non-biased, yes I completely agree with this self aggrandizing position.
furthermore, I choose to consider this empirical evidence that verifies my own
biasescommon sense beliefsI can see in two more turns this is going to turn out really bad.
Nah, no way there’s a billion active Reddit users. Not in 2022 and even less so in 2026. Only way that were possible is if it is randomly hugely popular in India, which I highly doubt. I don’t think it’s even available in China. My best guess would be far less. Active users it’s probably only a couple of million (excluding 2and accounts and bots), maybe 5 million, maybe 20. Who knows?
I wonder if that’ll become a standard ratio for other things. As an example, one Billionaire for every 25,000 millionaires? Maybe it’s a universally representative formula.
Are they all people though? Doesn’t reddit have a bot and paid trolling problem?
When you step into a non-bot place like Lemmy, it becomes apparent just how flooded Reddit is.
What on earth would make you think lemmy, a federated system, doesn’t have bots?
15 year old reddit account and recently had my first ever ban (3 days) for making an unfavourable comment about China, lol. Thanks to the ban I revisited Lemmy and found how nice it is to actually interact with real people. Now I don’t really go on reddit unless to do some research.
Even if the bot problem is massively blown out of proportion, I would argue most people that are addicted to algorithms are almost no different from a bot. I really don’t understand why we are only kicking kids off the internet because the way ai handles content feeds is literally killing them, when its obvious we should stop it completely because it harms everyone. And we should of been holding these people accountable, and I mean real prison time.
All this ad driven nonsense has done so much damage. The most obvious facebook has lost 3 lawsuits for what can be boiled down to mind control advertisement science. Cambridge analytics, the teen Instagram, faking likes and emotional manipulation of your news feed to boost advertisement revenue. They literally just showed you bad news 24/7 instead of pictures of your uncles fish he just caught, then advertisement companies who advertise for politicians, gambling, porn whatever use that data to send you relevant ads to whatever kind of weird doom loop Facebook has you stuck in. Not only that but Facebook has cause 2-3 revolutions and a genocide weirdly where US has military interest. Yet some how its ai moderation is so out of wack they are facing another potential law suit because ai is retroactively banning anyone and everyone ai hallucinations and demanding face scans before the ai instantly rejects and bans them. So I have a hard time believing if normal people can’t just exist on Facebook without a random ban, that genocide could even happen.
Facebook supports scammers over users too because that’s who gives them money, you are worse than a resource to them and if they could they would prefer if they can skip your consent all together to harvest your data. They let scam advertisements stay up, weird pedo ads and will ban you for mentioning it because you said a bad word, while the ads remain up. You don’t even need a Facebook account they have many APIs that tie in to much of the modern web for connected features and whatnot. They also really want to push smart glasses on people so even those who don’t have a Facebook account get a face scan, and because that person probably has you added in their contacts that they share with Facebook they slowly build profiles on you. Facebook has built and “canceled” face scanning projects 4 different times, there’s no way they’re not doing it even if they say they aren’t.
I don’t want to ‘other’ people in seeming less than human because they gobble this stuff up to the ponlint of becoming bots. Ultimately they are victims to something that they can’t even really comprehend simply because they maybe get 3-4 hours to themselves each day, and that’s gonna be filled with fun shit.
918 million sounds about right, if you Google a question, oftentimes, the Reddit link appears at the top or very close to it.
…who were at One Time on reddit. How many like me who just stopped going there when it went full scale evil?
Im stopping today, I got locked out of non logged in reddit on mobile about 3 months ago, and I cant even open new reddit without logging in on my pc today, the enshittification is real.
Yep. I am only new here but Reddit use had plummeted over the last few years. Here in Australia it looks like you now need an account to even view a sub-reddit. I don’t think I will ever go back there.
I don’t know about full skill evil, but I stopped using Reddit entirely when they started charging obscene amounts of money for their API. I had an app called Baconreader that I really liked, and its developer just essentially stopped making money because they couldn’t afford the API fees.
I’m new fairly new to lemmy. Reddit still seems useful, particularly because as the OP says due to number of users. You might get faster and broader discussions and ideas to whatever you’re looking for. Not sure why/when it started feeling negative on reddit, maybe that’s one of the side effect of large number of users and may apply to Lemmy too once userbase grows similarly
As a slashdot -> digg -> Reddit -> lemmy refugee, size is much less a problem than greed. Changes designed to milk engagement and ad dollars are what brings out the worst in people.
for specific niche topics, the frontpage is just slop, even AI slop.
I just discovered Lemmy recently, and it feels like discovering reddit for the first time back in 08-09. After the more recent updates, and the flood of bots, reddit just feels insufferable now.
This feels similar to Reddit but it feels much more news based than actual random user generated content.
what is with the sudden Dinner diaries, and aita post, we know most are faked, or written up drama(sometimes the poster is a writer and would write fake stories to gauge responses.
Hey can anyone tell me where to find a dick up myyass?
What do you think of my cool AI food picture!?
Where’s the best to go eat?
TIL: that reddit is full of bullshit!
Did you know… I didn’t care!
What’s the best whatevermycallit?
BREAKING! myyass with balls!
YSK! it’s another hidden AD!
This just in! myyass!
Hey look at me smile! I got an OnlyPhans!
The list goes on…
AI mod: your post has been removed!
Yeah I preferred cat pictures and people actually trying to communicate.
But wait! There’s more! Now link your phone or facebook or whatever.
No thank you.
Ehh, aside from all the bots, I left reddit a few years ago along with my 3 accounts and everyone I know IRL who was on reddit has stopped using it, mostly because the quality has gone downhill.
I know a guy who doesn’t stand for anything, wouldn’t care if spez drove to his house and threw literal shit at his kids, would keep using reddit if he kept enjoying it, still eventually got rid of reddit because he finally realized he wasn’t talking to people and half the posts were nonsense.
ever since the forced login, and i had to use a reskin method i used it less, after a year of ban, i made an account for niche topics, and found myself using it more than id like.
Reddit is an extemely toxic and restrictive environment ruled by AI, bots, and loser mods who will ban you for absolutely no reason. It is only a shadow of what it used to be after the great digg migration. It won’t be getting my clicks anymore.
and loser mods who will ban you for absolutely no reason
reddit filters can ban you with no warning sometimes. plus they are giving mods AI tools as well.
