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      You can always find these people and make them find out. They are actively committing genocide against the human race.

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          Why does it seem like there are a ton more conservatives here on Lemmy than there were on Reddit?

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              I don’t know how I feel about it. On one hand, it makes for less of an echo chamber. On the other hand, their thoughts are fucking stupid and it hurts my brain to see them.

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                They have the right to be here and express their thoughts.

                What they don’t have is a right to our attention.

                Ignore them and block accounts that get annoying.

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            Happy to have them here. I almost never agree with them, but not only is it good to have your opinion challenged (though often wearying to have to repeat yourself), it’s good for THEM to have their opinion challenged too. Maybe only 1/100 will change their opinion after being challenged and seeing that their opinion is very much in the minority, but that’s 1/100 more than if we were all chatting away in a safe space with no opposing views.

            (and to be clear, no I don’t think shit like nazis, devout racists etc is an ‘opposing view’ that deserves any debate)

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              I mean, I think they’re definitely still in the minority. It seems like there’s a larger proportion of them here than on reddit. I see more of their opinions here. Maybe that’s just how the algo works here regarding upvotes & downvotes and how comments are displayed.

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                It’s worst on lemmy.world I’ve noticed. Beehaw was right to defederate. Y’all need to tell them in the kindest possible words to go die over and over again until they don’t come back or you’ll end up like voat.

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            For every person that choose to leave reddit…

            There’s 5-10 “conservatives” who were ip banned and dont have a choice between Reddit and Lemmy.

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            They are not getting down-voted into nothingness for refusing to tow the party line.

            I appreciate the variety of opinions presented here. Plus (in my experience) the conversation has been civil.

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              Yeah. I hardcore disagree with conservatives as a libertarian socialist myself, but I always want to hear what people who disagree with me (and people who agree with me) are saying, and engage in civil conversation with people who actually believe what they say.

              The problem for me comes when shills (people who don’t believe what they say but get paid to say it) come into the conversation, or when people use outright disingenuous arguments (usually strawmans).

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                  You very well may be correct, but I always like to assume people are good and are arguing in good faith until proven otherwise.

                  If I can “steelman” (opposite of strawman) their position, and argue against it easilly, I see no reason not to do so, and that also makes for a better argument for other people viewing the comment thread who may believe the false notion that climate change is either fake or not caused by humans.

                  To me, trying to argue that climate change is fake or not caused by humans is the same as trying to argue that the Earth is flat. Very easy to debunk.

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                    That is a recipe for wasting a huge amount of time in people whose main goal is to waste your time.

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                  If they actually believe it, I would like to argue the factual point, which is very easy to do. If they don’t believe what they are saying, then yes, I have a problem with it.

                  There is plenty of evidence pointing to the fact that climate change is real and that it is caused by humans. If they choose to not listen to evidence and hard facts, then they lost the debate. If they say that big money funded those studies, simply point them to the Big Oil-funded studies claiming that climate change is false, and the fact that they originally found that it was true, and then tried to bury it.

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            Holy shit please tell me this person is just trolling us. I refuse to believe this is a real take

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              Anytime someone points to the Saudis as an example to follow…probably don’t need to listen to anything else they say.

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              I am no troll. I believe that I see the world as it is. I guess so do you.

              Doesn’t matter much though. No matter what we do. We will see who is right. Luckily time passes all by itself. For now.

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                  I take offence in being called a troll. It’s insulting. You can’t just call someone a troll with a different opinion and claim that this invalidates my argument.

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                But we’ve already seen who’s right. Most innovation comes from public universities and institutes.

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                  This is simply wrong. Basic research comes from universities and institutes.

                  But most research, Including research with application potential, comes from the privat sector. This includes the Pharma industry, the medical industry, the chemical industry, semi conductor industry and informatics.

                  It is mainly driven by big companies. In constant need to outperform their competition, or not to fall behind in research and innovation.

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                    Quickly testing if I go banned because some of my comments were deleted.

                    Edit: nope. Not banned.

                    (☞゚ヮ゚)☞ This is a community of well mannered people and good conversations.

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            This is a good example of the worst kind of pseudo intellectual bs that tricks the uninformed. It’s confidently wrong in so many different areas that I don’t even know where to start.

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              I don’t think you have been reading a single one of the articles. The first one already is a not so fitting response to m claim that European style houses are ore resilient against extreme weather events.

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                The first one is about how wet bulb temperatures and extreme heat work. The second one is about Europe. Whether or not they are ‘more’ resilient doesn’t matter.

                Also I don’t think you know what Europe is. Scandinavian, Central European and British houses are mostly made to keep heat in during cold winters. They’re not good for heatwaves.

                Mediterranean style housing is definitely better for heat. But that doesn’t stop Italy, Spain, and France from having deadly heatwaves.

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                  The first one is about how wet bulb temperatures and extreme heat work. The second one is about Europe. Whether or not they are ‘more’ resilient doesn’t matter.

                  Yes it does matter. European housing is well insulated. And definitely sturdier than US housing.

                  Also I don’t think you know what Europe is.

                  Yea, my bad. As a German I obviously have no idea what Europe is.

                  Scandinavian, Central European and British houses are mostly made to keep heat in during cold winters. They’re not good for heatwaves.

                  This is wrong. Insulation goes both ways. In summer it helps keeping the cooler night temperatures inside.

                  Mediterranean style housing is definitely better for heat. But that doesn’t stop Italy, Spain, and France from having deadly heatwaves.

                  Mediterranean housing is not especially good against heat. Wrong assumption. Swedes, Germans and the French are doing a much better job than the mediterranes.

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                    Won’t dispute that European housing is sturdier. And yes insulation works both ways - however, you need good ventilation. And shading etc. AFAIK insulation optimised for heat retention is different to that optimised for keeping cool.

                    If you have a study or something that compares Mediterranean vs other European house designs, please send it to me and I’ll change my mind if I’m wrong.

                    As a German you should know that heatwaves have killed thousands of people in Germany as well.

                    Swedes, Germans, and French are also wealthier and have less extreme heat to deal with than Italy, Spain or Greece. You can’t attribute that to house design. Again, if you have a study comparing these, send it to me and prove me wrong.

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              A similar flood happened in 1804 in the same region. Exactly the same region.

              The houses were placed in a strategically bad position.

              And many had no cellars ( to reinforce the houses in the ground).

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              English is not my primary language. I believe it was explosion motor what you have written at first.

              And while I am no expert of the workings of a modern combustion engine, I do indeed have an understanding of how a combustion engine works.

              I also know what reaction takes place and I know the average fuel consumption of an average European car.

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                I also know what reaction takes place

                If it’s not an explosion, what is it?

                Because literally any other answer that’s not a synonym for explosion is wrong…

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          I give you that. Just a few were directly involved in innovation.

          But the rich do quite successfully create the framework conditions for innovation and development. Mostly driven by profit, but a world based purely on goodwill fails at the first doubter, the first who does not want to participate. So capitalism is what we got. And so far it has proven to be more resilient than other systems.