• Gloria@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    History and how it went is written by the winners not losers. Germany and the US took those stances because of who lost and who won. As long as israel „wins“ (in whatever definition) it will write its history as a winner.

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      11 months ago

      You give too little credit to the German people.

      Also genocide is critical part of Israel’s existence so I’d be very disappointed if they don’t seriously reflect on this at least. Though I guess you should never underestimate a cult.

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        11 months ago

        Too little credit? You can’t seriously believe they’d be in the same state today if they’d won WW2. The only reason there’s been any reckoning is because they lost and were forced to confront their crimes.

        There won’t be a reckoning in Israel because they aren’t going to lose and no one will force them to confront it.

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            11 months ago

            Read what again? You said nothing other than Germans don’t get enough credit, which is bunk, and then you talked about Israel. If anything, they get too much credit, we are talking about acknowledging genocide. It isn’t something you should get credit for because it never should’ve happened in the first place. And it wasn’t even a choice, outside forces compelled them to own up to what they did.

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              11 months ago

              You are using two very different things interchangeably here: genocide and acknowledgement of genocide. Acknowledgement isn’t the right description in any case, maybe education would be more accurate. Germany „gets credit“ for it, because sadly, in comparison to most other nations, it does it well. And acknowledging this might make others reconsider.

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              11 months ago

              Really? You shouldn’t credit people for awareness and change?

              Maybe if Americans did that you guys wouldn’t be burning books about slavery lol

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        11 months ago

        Also genocide is critical part of Israel’s existence

        Yep, and they proceeded to do it (partway through) in 1949.