• WhoRoger@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The hypocrisy isn’t with the sub. Extensive rescue efforts always happen with oddball accidents and disappearances. Any sub or ship disappearing while exploring the Titanic would get the same attention.

    The hypocrisy is with handling refugees in general. Just like with the local homeless, nobody simply knows what to do with them, everyone likes to pretend they kinda care but also want the problem to go away, and nobody wants to have them in their own back yard.

    Well, unless it’s Ukrainians with “blond hair and blue eyes” (yea I’m not getting over that, because that’s exactly how people think about this situation) who are welcome with open arms and get free housing and care. Because all war refugees are equal, but some are more equal.

    But some black kids? If a couple hundred drown, that’s just less problems for the western countries.

    That’s how it works.

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      blond hair and blue eyes

      Yes, I‘m sure it‘s their hair and eye color rather than the obvious fact that refugees from war torn countries in the Middle East have endangered public security here. It‘s not groups of Ukrainians that have quite literally raped and killed children in my country.

      That all refugees are equal sounds like some lefty thing, in reality they obviously are not. Turning a blind eye to reality and accusing those that do not of racism isn’t going to win any elections. That’s why I doubt any efforts that would help more refugees come to Europe would be politically successful.

      For what it‘s worth I am sorry for the refugees. I don’t know how we can help the situation without risking our own safety. Crying racism isn’t going to do it. We would need to convince voters that a solution does not threaten safety here.

      I‘d imagine that if we want to implement stronger sea rescue operations, we would need a legal basis for bringing the rescued to another location, rather than settling them in Europe while we start years long asylum processes that can never realistically be fair. I doubt voters are going to approve otherwise.

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        Well I didn’t think we had any of you people on this platform, but I guess you spread everywhere.

        What country are you talking about specifically, are they actually “risking security” or does the news just highlight every individual case so it looks that way?

  • tl;dr bot@lemmy.worldB
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    1 year ago

    tl;dr:

    On June 14, what is believed to be one of the deadliest refugee and migrant shipwrecks occurred off the Greek coast, potentially claiming the lives of around 800 individuals. The Canary Islands off the coast of West Africa have become the main destination for migrants trying to reach Spain, with a smaller amount of migrants trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea to the Spanish mainland. The Mediterranean Sea has also become a perilous route for migrants seeking a better life in Europe, with a tragic loss of life. Over the years, countless migrants have embarked on treacherous journeys, often packed onto overcrowded and unseaworthy vessels in their desperate attempt to reach European shores. According to the UNHCR, the UN’s refugee agency, although the total number of migrants who embark upon the dangerous journey has fallen since the peak in 2015, the number of those who are killed during the dangerous endeavor has in fact risen.


    I am a bot in training. Suggestions?

  • YellowtoOrange@lemmy.world
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    “Why is such an extensive and expensive effort being made to rescue five people who took a voluntary leisure excursion when thousands of migrants are constantly drowning in their effort to escape hardship, poverty, and war? While some of the Titan’s passengers paid $250,000 for their doomed trip, migrants are often penniless and are escaping to western countries to find work. Why aren’t nations working together to help them and save them from dying at sea?”

    The reasons are pretty obvious.

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      2 incidents I can think of - Chilean miners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Copiap%C3%B3_mining_accident , Thai kids rescued from Cave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tham_Luang_cave_rescue. I’m sure ther are more , malaysia MH370…

      The world responds without prejudice when these kinds of out-of-the-ordinary accidents happen. Refugees is a completely separate issue and needs its own discussion. So does homelessness, Mental health, prescription drug abuse… Saving lives doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.

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      1 year ago

      Even if the reasons are obvious it doesn’t mean we can’t have a discussion about it. Ever heard of doing something for the wrong reason?

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        Oh sure, we can discuss it. I just didn’t have much time to write a long comment!

        This is a complicated issue, and the most obvious reason I would say is that these rich people and white explorers are more “important” than refugees, due to their background and money.

        There is a debate on whether to allow refugees into citizen’s countries. If so, how many? Should you allow all of them? What if there was a catastrophe and 2 million people moved through Europe? What if 1 million refugees attempted to enter your country?

        This is likely a never ending debate as the “answers” are valid for one group of people, and changes as societal standards change.