• 🇨🇦🇩🇪🇨🇳张殿李🇨🇳🇩🇪🇨🇦@ttrpg.network
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    16 hours ago

    Empathy. It shocks me how many “adults” have a toddler-level understanding of their relationship to the world (as in it doesn’t revolve around them) and society (as in we have responsibility for each other). So many “adults” sound like screeching toddlers whenever there’s a hint of someone else getting something they don’t get. It even reaches the level of “I don’t like this movie so it shouldn’t have been made” as if the very existence of entertainment or education or whatever in a field they themselves don’t prefer is a personal affront.

    And this isn’t even a right-wing thing. The feminist National Action Committee in Canada was turned from a potent and feared political force to a laughingstock by ostensible left-wing women deciding that their concerns over daycare trumped native women’s active murders among other intersectional issues.

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      14 hours ago

      Something that bothers me about a lot of people’s sense of empathy is that they’re only able to employ it by directly relating events to themselves. It’s like a stereotypical “How would you feel if this happened to your daughter?” thing, where people can only extend empathy as far as a situation that it’s possible for them to get into.

      I also hear this a lot around disasters, whether they be natural, terrorist attacks, etc. If you’re around somebody who has been anywhere near the location of the event, get ready for the “Gosh, that’s so awful. I was only there six years ago, it could have been me.” Can’t you just fucking care about the wellbeing of things that aren’t you? Feel bad because a bad thing happened, not by making it about yourself.

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        13 hours ago

        where people can only extend empathy as far as a situation that it’s possible for them to get into.

        I wonder if there is a distinguishing term for this.

        Empathy = The ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes (no matter how different they are from you)

        ? = The “ability” to imagine yourself in a situation that someone else, who’s very similar to you, experienced.

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      15 hours ago

      God this is true, there’s a staggering amount of people that lack it. So much selfishness as well

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        13 hours ago

        Selfishness can be trained away, lack of empathy not very much it seems.

        Happily we store all these non-empats in pisition of power.

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        13 hours ago

        It’s akin to a skill, after all. Like humor. Having either one does not make someone good or bad. They’re just gimmicks in the end.

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      15 hours ago

      I think overall, most people are just too dumb. I mean you could always say that, regardless of how smart the population actually is in absolute terms, simply based on variability. But still, so many things can be traced back to this. Of course, smart people also do really dumb shit, just less often.

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          14 hours ago

          If everyone is the same, why do some consistently do far less stupid shit than others? That is not something the society defines. Some are literally too stupid to see how their actions directly lead to their own harm. No need to look at “complex” things like voting trump as an immigrant with the wrong skin color and then getting deported.

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            13 hours ago

            I believe it was Einstein that said “don’t judge a fish by its ability to ride a bicycle”, I’m probably misquoting somewhat.

            Anyway, I think what the person you are replying to was trying to say that everyone has things that they are stupid at.

            For instance, I can’t dance other than either specifically spelled out instructions like waltz or like an epileptic on crack cocaine in a rave.

            I have a lot of other things I’m bad at but that’s just the squeakiest wheel to grease.

            I honestly feel like these people are trying to say something and don’t have the skill needed to say it.

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              13 hours ago

              Not being good at everything is something completely different. Dumb is when someone says things like “English is God’s language because the Bible is written in English”.