Summary
Immigration officials detained a US citizen for nearly 10 days in Arizona, according to court records and press reports.
On 8 April, a border patrol official found Hermosillo “without the proper immigration documents” and claimed that the young American had admitted entering the US illegally from Mexico.
On 17 April, a federal judge dismissed his case. “He did say he was a US citizen, but they didn’t believe him.”
“Under the Trump administration’s theory of the law, the government could have banished this U.S. citizen to a Salvadoran prison then refused to do anything to bring him back,” Mark Joseph Stern, a legal analyst for Slate, wrote on Bluesky. “This is why the Constitution guarantees due process to all. Could it be more obvious?”
Do you even hear yourself? Do you actually think these Fascist Goons are gonna patiently listen to your logical arguments and rhetoric, and just let you go? No, they won’t. They’re gonna swoop in, grab you off the street, and throw you into the back of a van before you can open your mouth. Trying to out-argue a fascist takeover is a fool’s errand; the only thing they respect is power for power’s sake. But hey, if you wanna try talking your way out of being illegally deported by Goons with subaverage IQs, be my guest.
I do hear myself and I’m not engaging with them currently. I’m engaging with people on Lemmy at the moment.
The truth is you don’t know what would happen if they came after me, neither do I. I suspect I’m very unlikely to be a target but I think there’s a pretty good chance I’d maybe end up in a position where I’d have to decide whether to intervene on someone else’s behalf, if this continues long enough.
Buddy, I don’t know how much clearer they need to be before you understand that they WILL start coming after American Citizens, of ALL types, so long as they don’t fall in line with the Fascist Regime. Hell, they’ve already started, just look at all the recent stories of people being detained at the borders over nonsense, like that couple in Vermont, or that guy in the southwest. Whether you like it or not, you and I are both targets, simply because we are willing to say ‘No’ to their demands. Even if it’s not you or I, this shit WILL get violent before we’re through, and no amount of logical argument or rhetoric will change that.
I’ve seen a lot of this type of rhetoric lately. It might be true but it seems a lot like wish fulfillment to me. I’m not convinced of the doomsday path that you seem to be and I truly hope it doesn’t;t devolve into violence because that will be a losing proposition for all. I’m optimistic that there’s a path forward without violence but I actually think the hardest part is yet to come. It’s going to be the long term reform once the immediate rot is removed.
Man I’m not happy about it either, but there’s no reality where we can talk our way out of this as a society. There will unfortunately be blood, whether it’s protests against the system getting rowdy with rage, or Fascist crackdowns as the Criminals in Chief seek power consolidation. We’re in for a rough ride no matter what.
I truly hope you’re wrong and am optimistic about what I’m seeing but I think we’re still at a tipping point. The next few months will truly be critical for the country.
On this I think we agree 100%. I don’t expect this to ever be the America it was before ain’t my lifetime, maybe ever.