• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      No, Capitalism is just one Mode of Production, a relatively new one, in a long chain of them. It isn’t the first, and will not be the last unless we nuke ourselves to death or Climate Change kills us all.

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        We’re literally going to capitalize ourselves to death because of human nature.

        Basically, humans trade, humans establish hierarchy, hierarchy establishes currency based on real things or favors to deal with the presence of other hierarchy and to compete, real things end up being used as it is more reliable and favor based economies get conquered, capitalism.

        Edit: And if you think you can solve capitalism with a moral bullet, you’ll likely pacify us into losing to someone or something more violent than we are or create an violently enlightened society led by dark empaths and capitalism is still a thing because we’ll still be trading and be using money to exchange goods to build things whether the system is open or closed.

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            29 minutes ago

            More like, capitalism is the road. There’s a lot ways to build a road, and some roads are better than others, but you need the road. When there is no road, you create one. Whether the currency is money, favors, ideas, or bartering.

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          10 hours ago

          Human nature is malleable, it is determined by material conditions, ie the surroundings and experiences, including the economic formation of society. As society shifts in Mode of Prodiction, “Human Nature” shifts with it.

          Further, Capitalism is not simply using currency to trade. It arose only a few hundred years ago. Currency existed back in feudal eras, despite predating Capitalism. Capitalism specifically arose primarily with technologies like the Steam Engine. More generally, Capitalism is more about turning a sum of money into a larger sum of money through paying wage laborers to create commodities using Capital you own, competing within a market where this is the principle aspect of the economy.

          This system is relatively new, and is already being phased out in Socialist countries like the PRC.

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            36 minutes ago

            Yes and no. We conquer and dominate and build. All human cities look roughly similar. Productivity wins because it conquers those who aren’t.

            Even China uses their own form of capitalism. Chinese history is more capitalist than most countries too imo. China hasn’t risen above capitalism, they mastered their own style of it, but as waves rise and fall, the state of a country’s economy is ever changing. Today they are wolves, but without the century of humiliation they might not be, just as America would not have had anywhere to fall if did not climb so high.