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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/28758314
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this is NOT dumb. i think the heart is in the right place. EU DOES need a Linux distro for the public sector. i’d still recommend not using RHEL/Fedora.
I think it’s an interesting idea, but it’s just a concept right? And it’s intended for public sector use, rather than consumer use.
Average people who want to try a European Linux distro on their home computer could try Ubuntu (British) or OpenSUSE (German). Or whatever you like really. Debian is not really European but it is a global FOSS project so you could use that if you want.
My Linux experience is mainly with Debian and Ubuntu so I’m biased towards those I guess. Use what you like though.
Yes I think it is just a concept, how a Linux distribution for the public sector could look like.
Fedora is backed by Red Hat, which is owned by IBM!
Nobody has yet provided a good reason why this matters. Red Hat doesn’t own Fedora, and RHEL is downstream from Fedora. You could fork it in whatever country you live in and start a new project if you wanted to.
What is so important about these downstream ties that it taints the entire project? (I’m really asking, by the way.)
Red Hat doesn’t own Fedora
Yes, they kind of do.
Red Hat own the Fedora name, brand, and logos.
They own and maintain the website, the servers, and all physical infrastructure used by the Fedora project.
The Fedora Project Leader is a Red Hat employee (constitutionally they always have to be). The Fedora Operations Architect and Fedora Community Architect are also Red Hat employees.
7 of the 9 Fedora Community Council members are Red Hat employees.
The upshot of it all is that Red Hat has full effective control of the project, is the sole main funding sponsor, and has full control over the use of the name, brand, and public image. And of course the main downstream beneficiary of the Fedora codebase is Red Hat/IBM.
Technically they don’t own the code itself (because it’s open source), but if that’s your metric then no FOSS project can be meaningfully owned by anyone.
Technically they don’t own the code itself (because it’s open source), but if that’s your metric then no FOSS project can be meaningfully owned by anyone.
That’s what I mean. You could fork the entire codebase today and start your own thing. Yes, that would be a massive undertaking, but we’re not talking about volunteers trying their hand at being Red Hat, we’re talking about governments with real resources to throw at it.
And I agree that no FOSS project can be meaningfully owned by anyone. That’s kinda the point. The larger community allows “ownership” for various reasons, but many projects can be and do get forked and spun into different things.
I know that Fedora is a community-driven Linux distribution but it is sponsored and financed by Red Hat. It serves as a testing ground for new technologies that may eventually be incorporated into Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). While Fedora is developed by a community of contributors, Red Hat provides resources, infrastructure, and support to help facilitate its development…After the controversy of RedHat with CentOS and the fedora telemetry “suggested” by redhat, I think that Debian will be a better choice ! But it’s just my opinion… Excellent initiative by the way
Red Hat benefits from Fedora, just like Suse benefits from OpenSuse. If such EU OS becomes a huge success, with hundreds of thousands PCs running it, maybe it would be better for a EU based company to benefit from it.
This is dumb. Also the news is a month old and has already been discussed ad nauseam, including in this community.
Why is it dumb? I joined not too long ago and didn’t know that it was already discussed.
Feel free to read any of the other cross-posts listed under your post, but to summarize: it’s a one-man project trying to make a proof-of-concept, and it’s using an American base distribution (Fedora, which is owned by Red Hat which is owned by IBM).
Thank you for the explaination.
fedora-based
Hmmmmmm
Someone should fork Aurora, slap a few EU OS logos and call it a day.
Is this somehow different or better than Linux Mint or Fedora KDE? I’m not a big Linux guy but I have Fedora KDE Plasma on my desktop and am considering switching to Aurora/Mint on my Microsoft Surface laptop. I wasn’t able to find much info on Aurora outside of their website
See this comment I made recently.
Aurora is Fedora KDE (specifically Kinoite, the KDE version of Silverblue) with a couple QoL tweaks and tools. I’ve been very happy with it! Though all the atomic Fedora versions are awesome, can’t go wrong with any of them.
Based on Fedora Kinoite and immutable OS images. OpenSUSE has something similar called MicroOS, but server focused.
This is a frontline of next gen Linux desktops that will revolutionize the way we maintain them. I am a Debian veteran of over 12 years and now I use Aurora at home. This is the way.
Yeah, but you can’t layer packages over MicroOS as easily. This is why Ublue has been gaining a lot of traction.
One example: the same day that Fedora 42 was released, the whole set of Ublue distros automatically shipped their updated versions, Bazzite 42 was on my PC the same day as upstream was released.
Insanely Fast.
Out of curiosity: do you have some notification on Bazzite that automatic update was downloaded and reboot is required? Or is this totally stealth? And should it all be automatic or ‘ujust update’?
Opensuse has also now the Aeon for desktop use, whose first release is at Release Candidate 4. It is based on MicroOS concept.
Nice to know!
We have OpenSUSE at home
OpenSUSE at home:
Yeah no thanks?
Nobody needs another distro. Europe should go with any popular Linux distro.
