• the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    They can be, if they change their gender identity. Same way they’d become actors or waiters. Blame the 8 languages duct taped together that form English.

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      3 hours ago

      There’s no need. “An actor” / “a hero” is already a gender neutral term in common usage, no matter how archaic your inner world is or whatever conservative bumfucknowhere you live in.

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        3 hours ago

        So the male version of the word is the default? That’s sexist.

        Sometimes common usage is wrong. That’s the whole reason society is having a discussion about pronouns and gendered language. You need to do better, no matter how archaic your inner world is or whatever conservative bumfucknowhere you live in.

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          The lemma is the default.

          Sometimes common usage is wrong.

          Okay so what youre saying is that we should differentiate between male and female actors with specific words to… ensure heteronormativity in the way you see it? Despite feminists calling the exact opposite for several decades before you were even born?

          http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/weekender/scripts/weekender_actor_070406.pdf

          Then, if we jump forward to the 1970s and 1980s, women began to choose the term ‘actor’ instead of ‘actress’ as a direct result of the women’s movement and an awareness of gender bias in language. Women began to take back the term ‘actor’, and it’s often used today. Zoë Wannamaker explains that in the 1970s and 1980s there was ‘a stigma’ – a feeling that people disapproved – of being called an actress. This was because the word actress seemed to have the ‘connotation’, or suggested meaning, of being a prostitute

          So just so you know, you’re insisting on implying all women actors to be whores. Sexist as fuck

          You need to do better, no matter how archaic your inner world is or whatever conservative bumfucknowhere you live in.

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            1 hour ago

            Idk how long you spent googling, trying to find something that would support your point, but the fact that the best you could come up with was only relevant to the UK in the 1970s is p funny. Did you think you were arguing with Elton John?

            no matter how archaic your inner world is or whatever conservative bumfucknowhere you live in.

            Guy who definitely isn’t a conservative was just trying to enforce 60 year old social norms a minute ago lol

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              Yeah I wrote that on my mobile in like a minute flat, lol.

              Just how young or ignorant do you need to be to not know that feminism doesn’t want women actors to be called “actresses” (as it implies being a prostitute)?

              It’s what feminism has been doing SINCE the 70’s. Not “IN the seventies.”

              One of us clearly has better command of the English language. Not that I’m appealing to authority, but, weirdly you dropped arguing over “the male form” after I linked a Wiki article on what a lemma is… Guess you hadn’t heard that word before? You’re welcome for the lesson. ;>

              Conservatives like you are disgusting af.