• Madison420@lemmy.world
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      20 hours ago

      How could they be wrong? They apologized and explained that it isn’t intentional and why. What exactly do you need to be happy here, seppuku?

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        19 hours ago

        They didn’t apologize, they doubled down with some of the most insipid bullshit about pronouns not existing in English and how they’re “depronouning english”, despite defaulting to using the masculine, instead of just saying “oh yeah, I didn’t see the name, I’ll edit my comment”.

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          about pronouns not existing in English and how they’re “depronouning english”,

          So it’s rude of me to not see gender, but it’s not rude of you to purposefully misrepresent what I said?

          “Depronouning”?

          No. DISGENDERING. Ie, “if everyone treated English the same as me, you’d have nothing to scream about, because there’d be no distinction for you to complain about” as English would have evolved to the point where it left out unnecessary gendering. Like how it’s somewhat offensive to call women actors “actresses”, but also, some think it’s quite respectful. It very much depends on the context. For another actor, calling them an “actor” instead of “actress” would mean they’re being misgendered on purpose, when the other person is purposefully not using the unnecessary gendering of words, or in other words actively disgendering English.

          So, is Natalie Portman an actor or an actress? **Either way you answer, I can still use the same bullshit highroading rhetoric you’re using rn to pretend like you’re intentionally misgendering them.

          There is no gender-neutral singular third person pronoun in English. “They” isn’t singular. It’s plural. It’s not like I refuse to address people by their preferred pronouns. I simply did not look, and used “the default.” Now we can argue what “should” be the default, but you’re not gonna make my brain gender people or think of pluralities as singularities. I’ll address people in singular they and respect it if they choose to, but I’m not gonna default to it over you not liking how English doesn’t have a gender-neutral third person singular pronoun. We in Finnish do (“hän”), but it’s reserved for pets and polite conversation in the media. The colloquial way in Finnish is to refer to people as “it” (“se”), but as I’ve stated previously, I know how offensive the connotation in English can be. Swedish is trying to copy us an add a gender-neutral third person singular. English should attempt to as well. Like “shim”. Go on, influence English enough to change the default and I’ll adopt the new default. No biggie.

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          19 hours ago

          An appology doesn’t have to say sorry if they aren’t sorry dude. They explained it and hilariously the person minging about it the most immediately assumed the person you’re mad at’s gender which is just hilariously hypocritical.

          oh yeah, I didn’t see the name, I’ll edit it my comment".

          That’s literally what they said minus I’ll edit my comment. So what’s the benefit of editing the comment? Will it reverse time or remove context so you not rose will be less offended.

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            19 hours ago

            An apology does have to say sorry or it’s just an explanation. If they aren’t sorry, they’re not apologising, they’re just telling you what happened in a way that takes 0 responsibility.

            I know all I need to about you from this one simple statement and now realise you’ll be too pig headed to approach this in any way other than antagonistically in a desperate attempt to browbeat the other person into submission. Because for you, it’s not about reaching consensus, it’s about your own ego.

            You do you bro, I don’t care enough about anyone in this debate to bother responding anymore. Peace.

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              19 hours ago

              No that can be an apology, it however isn’t the only way to apologize.

              You know dictionaries? Try one.

              something that is said or written to defend something that other people criticize

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                16 hours ago

                I wonder how long you had to scroll to find that one. Taking an overly literal definition instead of understanding the context and spirit of what an apology is: the last bastion of the guy who cares more about winning than being right.

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                  12 hours ago

                  It’s the second definition online for me so exactly one.

                  The spirit of apology is not saying sorry dude. You don’t need it anyway and she didn’t ask for it. You’re the weird demanding one.

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                    11 hours ago

                    It’s the second definition online for me

                    Which means you intentionally scrolled past the most common definition which requires you to be sorry because it proved you wrong.

                    The spirit of apology is not saying sorry dude.

                    Good luck being single the rest of your life lol