In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

  • the_three_tomatoes@lemmy.world
    18·
    14 hours ago

    But wouldn’t it be more productive to talk to Proton about this obviously crappy PR instead of descending into unnecessary cancelling of a perfectly good service?

    And how do we know none of the other services also have fascists in their midst? This circle could go on forever until no services are left.

    Asking seriously.

    • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
      5·
      12 hours ago

      I did. Their reply was generic and useless. “Yen said on Reddit it’s his personal opinion.” Yet he used the Proton admin account to spread his opinion (based on fake news).

      • the_three_tomatoes@lemmy.world
        2·
        11 hours ago

        Fair enough! So what do you hope to accomplish with this action? Like, goal wise, is it to change Proton’s stance? Or is it more about being an ethical consumer?

        • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.world
          2·
          8 hours ago

          It’s so I hopefully get the right answer so I don’t have to switch to an alternative for my calender (just switched from Google), my mail, vpn and password manager. I am a paying customer since May 2019. I was happy with Proton and what they stand for, their CEO is now ruining everything. “We want to switch to a foundation so our goal will be preserved.” Sure… Spreading fake news and taking a political stance in the US, while at the same time claiming to be Swiss neutral. Why do almost all techbros have to become evil now Trump is becoming president again. Even Swiss foundations.